9/16/97


We inherited an old embedding oven that is caked in resin. Does anyone

ever clean out their embedding oven? If so, what is used to do this?

I am not so concerned about the cleanliness of the oven, but rather the

problems it seems to be causing when things start sticking to the oven.

There is a plastic petri dish with old desiccant in it that has stuck itself

onto the bottom of the oven, with no way to easily dislodge it.

Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Susan Carbyn

Atlantic Food and Horticulture Research Centre

Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada

Kentville, Nova Scotia B4N 1J5

Canada

Phone (902) 679-5566

Fax (902) 679-2311

E-mail: carbyns@em.agr.ca


I used to chisel away at the stuff, and try to use various solvents to

clean off the glass door without dissolving my gloves, with limited

success. One day I came into the lab and, lo! the oven was clean. Turns

out someone had cleaned it out with our putty knife WHILE IT WAS HOT!

Duh. She said it was pretty easy. Be careful of all surfaces. Wear

gloves. Worry about toxicity. Disregard me if anyone says this is not

recommended.

http://www.pbrc.hawaii.edu/bemf/microangela

* Tina (Weatherby) Carvalho * tina@pbrc.hawaii.edu *

* Biological Electron Microscope Facility * (808) 956-6251 *

* University of Hawaii at Manoa


I am not sure what kind of resin is involved, but once I had to clean out

a 5 litre three-neck flask that had been used to synthesize alkyd resins -

these are basically phthalic polyesters crosslinked through

polyunsaturated fatty acids. There was a caked-on film that would not

yield to concentrated sulphuric acid, tetrahydrofuran, or any of the usual

things. I put some .880 Ammonia in the bottom of the flask, blocked the

necks with cotton wool, and left it overnight, and next morning the film

had swollen and fallen away and could be yanked out with tongs or

whatever.

Ammonia vapour is very effective with polyester based resins because of

(a) it basic nature and (b) most important, its small molar volume.

If, on the other hand, your resin is an epoxy, it might be better to put a

dish of methylene chloride (dichloromethane) in the bottom, seal the oven,

and go away overnight. Methylene chloride is the basis of most commercial

paint strippers.

The use of vapour technique does make for much less messy operation. Once

the film is loosened, strong detergent should be good enough for

scrubbing.

However, that PLASTIC PETRI DISH would probably turn into a gooey mess

with the methylene chloride vapour, so try the ammonia first. (Also

consider, does your oven seal with an O-ring?)

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