4/3/97


Dear Microscopy Folks:

I am Candace Haigler, Director of the EM Lab at Texas Tech University,

writing this message together with Mark Grimson, EM Technician, who is a

member of your Internet group. We find ourselves facing a potential

problem about which we need your advice.

Our EM lab is now fairly stable, being purpose-built underground as an

attachment to the main Biology building (it sticks out beyond the

above-ground footprint of the building). Our only current problem is that

our roof is a brick patio that attracts skate-boarders. When they are

skate-boarding, we cannot take pictures due to vibrations, but this is a

sporadic problem and we can chase them away.

Now we find that the university is making a Master Plan, the draft of which

shows a major service road to a new 1000 space parking deck coming very

close to our building. We estimate that the road will be within 50 feet,

or even closer, to the below-ground EM lab. Given our existing problem

with skate boarders, we are very worried that this road will essentially

destroy the utility of the lab.

We solicit your help in:

(1) Sharing knowledge about similar situations

(2) Pointing us to the best published sources about EM lab design,

particularly in regard to vibration and preferred distance from nearby roads

(3) Pointing us to any expert EM lab design firms from whom we

might get information

We are very concerned about this situation, and will greatly appreciate

your help. You may reply to Mark at the address shown above, or my

personal e-mail address is brchh@ttu.edu.

Sincerely,

Candace Haigler

Professor and Director of the Electron Microscopy Laboratory

brmjg@ttacs1.ttu.edu


Dear Candice et al.,

This sounds like a real disaster in the making. Our facility is

several hundred meters from some major roads, and we were quite worried

about vibrations from truck traffic. The effects of traffic depend crit-

ically on the nature of the soil between you and the road. Bedrock will

transmit vibrations very well; whereas damp clay will absorb much of the

energy. The good news is that there may not be much traffic except for

a few times during the day, and that you may be able to convince the

university to put some vibration-damping material at the bottom of the

roadbed. I don't know what is available, but maybe a layer of poly-

urethane (which is a good vibration absorber) could be cost-effective

solution--especially if there is a source of recycled plastic locally.

Good luck.

illiam Tivol

tivol@wadsworth.org


Candice/all:

We here at Dow are in a well-isolated facility which is a result of

demonstrating that passing trucks would give problems to our NMR

spectrometers and microscopes. Without going into the full explanation,

the argument was made based on empirical data: We had large trucks

rumble by our existing facilities during data acquisition and compared

the results to the same experiment run during a known quiet time. The

loss of information was documented and recast in terms of monetary cost

for reduced data quality. In our case, the financial penalty of reduced

resolution/sensitivity justified the extra cost of closing a major local

thoroughfare.

My suggestion would be to get someone from a trucking company to come by

and drive their truck in the approximate location of the service drive

to document the problems, then see if the U. can come up with an

alternate access route to the ramp (moving the entire ramp would be

better, but probably less likely). The fact that you have a few hundred

thousand dollars tied up in sensitive equipment suggests that the U.

recognizes the value of your work and would hopefully be willing to

accommodate the situation. Consider the bad press they would get for

compromising their research reputation in the name of a car park!

Good luck,

Bill Heeschen

waheeschen@dow.com


Contact Dr. Judy Murphy (expert in design of EM labs). She may be able

to guide you. 209 474-5284

Also check Chapter 1, Setting Up An Electron Microscope Facility in

Procedures in Electron Microscopy, AW Robards and AJ Wilson, eds, John

Wiley & Sons, New York. While it doesn't address skateboarders and roads

per se, it may give you ammunition to fight the administration.

Sara E. Miller, Ph. D.

P. O. Box 3020

Duke University Medical Center

Durham, NC 27710

Ph: 919 684-3452

FAX: 919 684-8735

saram@acpub.duke.edu


I used to have a lab 50 metres from a (not so busy) railway line. We could

detect the vibration from the trains when they were around a kilometre off.

The problem will vary according to the soil type between your lab and the

new road. Ideally the road would be on swampy ground and your lab on a

platfrom carved out of granite. That would give good decoupling. But

basically, any effective solution in you laboratory will cost several

thousands per instrument, as each instrument will need to be relocated on

some heavy support (thick steel plate, thicker concrete slab, mass is what

you need) with some very flexible mounts under it (air-springs are ideal).

It may be more cost effective to route the road further away.

The classic reference work is "Design of the Electron Microscope Laboratory"

by Ronald H Alderson 1975. It is Volume 4 in "Practical Methods in Electron

Microscopy" Editor Audrey M Glauert. American Elsevier ISBN 0444 1087 6.

Was still available two years back whem I bought my second copy to share

with the architect for my new laboratory. Pages 68-86 deal with mechanical

vibration and decoupling/damping systems

Melvyn Dickson

M.Dickson@unsw.edu.au


Hello Mel and others intetested

Many years ago JEOL News published an article on the design of

the EM rooms at the John Innes Institute in the UK. As far as I

can recall this dealt in some detail with vibration

transmission. We based the design of our EM rooms on this and we

have had no vibration problems.



Robin H Cross

Director : EM Unit, Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa

eurc@giraffe.ru.ac.za - tel: +27 461 318168 - fax: +27 461 24377


There have been instances where the problem with the rail line has been less

due to ground vibrations than to the creation of a transient magnetic field

problem that correlated with the passage of a train. In about 1969, there

was an SEM installed at a Philadelphia university near the main passenger

line of AMRAK and Conrail, and the real problem was more related to the

magnetic field (trains were pantograph (electrically) powered) than to

vibrations. The problem was ultimately "solved" only by moving the

microscope. So don't forget the magnetic field problem potential as well.

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Another interesting problem I was told about related to a EM installed in

Eastern Europe a number of years back. There were continual, intermittent

resolution and noise problems, worse during the day, not too often at night

and after midnight, the problems disappeared.

After a lot of investigations, the problems was finally traced to the local

trams. What was happening was that everything was OK until the trams

reached a nearby hill - the extra load in pulling up the hill (trams going

down the hill weren't a problem) dragged the mains supply voltage below an

acceptable level and caused a whole series of instabilities in the EM.

Dr L. P. Stoter Technical Editor, MICROSCOPY & ANALYSIS

Technesis

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Uckfield, E. Sussex Phone: +44 (0)1825 766911

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Speaking of vibrations, can anyone provide information (name, address,

phone, FAX, e-mail, www address, etc.) for vendors of vibration isolation

pads and platforms. I have a new stereo microscope installation that is

being bothered by building vibrations.

Larry Sutter

Michigan Technological University

Dept. of Civil and Environmental Engineering

1400 Townsend Dr.

Houghton, MI 49931

voice: 906-487-2423

FAX: 906-487-2943

e-mail: llsutter@mtu.edu


You can do it yourself.

Get a 2 ft (or so) square of paving cement from a garden supply (or hardware

) company. Buy 4 tennis balls. Put the slab on some sturdy bench with a

tennis ball under each corner. Put the microscope on the slab. For a more

compliant isolator use a small inner tube from some small wheel.

Mel Dickson

M.Dickson@unsw.edu.au


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