7-29-98
desirability of venting SEM chambers
with either air (passed through a filter and
desiccant column) or bottled nitrogen?
In the case of LEO SEMs with LaB6 filaments
it strikes me as being an unnecessary expense to
vent with bottled nitrogen as the column region is
seldom vented. Also venting with bottled nitrogen
adds complexity as precautions must be taken not
to over pressurize the chamber and damage the
EDS window.
I would appreciate comments for my guidance.
Trevor Sewell
sewell@uctvms.uct.ac.za
We have found that boil off from liquid nitrogen is by far the best
venting material. It is dry, it is clean, it is cheal.We hane the whole
lab' plumbed with a line going back to a 100litre Dewer which if I
remember lasts for 3-4 weeks. You obviosly have to be careful with
pressure. There is nothing like getting a 100lb SEM stage whislting out
of the microscope and landing on your lap. Really brtings tears to your
eyes.
Patrick Echlin
Multi-Imaging Centre
University of Cambridge.
pe13@cus.cam.ac.uk
maintenance. I would be inclined to use nitrogen; it's
drier and cleaner. The cost is mostly in the rental of the
cylinder and not the gas. I used a full N2 cylinder to run
some pneumatic EM valves and instrument backfilling. When
the high pressure cylinder ran low, it was switched to
serve for gas agitation during film development. The low
pressure cylinder was always available to exchange for a
full cylinder when required without interrupting EM
operations.
Over-pressurising is avoided by not relying on a timer to
backfill the column but the use of a demand valve (from a
diver shop) this type of valve delivers gas only while the
diver, or the microscope "sucks".
A "T" junction with a needle outlet near the cylinder could
also be useful to dust-off particles from microscope parts
etc.
Jim Darley
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This is a great topic for discussion as there are quite a few factors that come into play.
Basically the main criteria for any vacuum system is to keep the atmosphere in it
constant and clean. By venting and opening the door of the chamber in a SEM to change
samples obviously throws that criteria out the window.
As is always the case with microscopy we have to make compromises. The best solution
would be to fit an airlock to the chamber. In this way you would maintain a better
vacuum, however then you are limited to sample size and it's expensive to buy an
airlock.
The second option is to back fill with dry nitrogen gas. Nitrogen being the gas that is
most prevalent in the air that we breath and that vacuum manufactures have therefore
designed their vacuum pumps and gauges around.
By back filling with dry nitrogen you are maintaining a fairly constant atmosphere to
pump after venting and changing the sample. Maintaining the positive pressure in the
chamber, as you open the door, keeps the surrounding atmosphere out. Yes, the negative
side to this is the danger of putting to much pressure on the window of the ED detector
and therefore blowing it. This can be prevented by simply removing the latch that hold
the door closed.
The surface area of the door is much larger than the area of the window, so the door will
be forced open far before the pressure on the window of the ED detector suffers. In fact
on normal W filament systems where you vent the entire column, I have seen the gun
popping up and down due to dry nitrogen backfilling, when the door latch is still on. No
damage to the ED detector.
As mentioned the vacuum components are also suited to Nitrogen. Pirrani and penning
gauges are calibrated on Nitrogen pressures, so by using nitrogen you have a better
chance of attaining the same readings each time you pump again. The Turbo molecular
pump, in particular, prefers to pump nitrogen and is thus more efficient. Water vapour is
particularly difficult for a turbo pump to pump. So if your EM is situated near the coast
or you have a lot of heavy breathers using the EM, the humidity in the lab will change
on an hourly, daily and seasonal basis. On a bad day, with high humidity, the pumping
speed of the chamber to reach VAC OK status, could decrease in terms of 5 to 10
minutes from a good dry day.
Thus in conclusion ( yes I eventually got there), to backfill with dry nitrogen improves
pump down speed, cleanliness of the system, stability and repeatability of the required
vacuum and prolonged life of the vacuum pumps. This will be very helpful if you
require high resolution work or very accurate ED analysis from your system on a regular
basis. There is also no need to purchase an air lock for your system.
On the down side, as there always is in microscopy, there is the cost of the nitrogen,
ensuring the door latch is not left on to prevent ED window damage ( however I am not
aware of anyone where this has happened. ), changing samples in a hurry so as not to
waste too much Nitrogen and the hassle of making sure you have a supply of Nitrogen
handy all the time.
In my opinion, a SEM that is totally vented each time you need to change samples, i.e.
vent the column , gun and chamber, and is situated near the coast or any other high
humidity area, should definitely use dry nitrogen backfilling.
If you are simply venting the chamber but wish to do high resolution work or stable ED
analysis, I would still look at dry nitrogen backfilling.
If you are analysing or looking at really foul samples at low mag any way, I would not
bother.
That's it from me. I hope it helps and good luck.
Luc Harmsen
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speed pumpdown somewhat, likely by minimizing water entry into the
vacuum system. It is of no help, of course, when I get the
ocassional specimen which outgasses significantly.
I have bottled nitrogen in the lab, but instead use the gas
take-off provided on the LN2 cryo which is also in the lab.
Over pressure is not a problem so long as I don't hold the chamber
door shut when venting....
Woody White - McDermott Technology, Inc.
Woody.N.White@mcdermott.com
atmospheric pressure. I'm from the better-safe-than-sorry school and
prefer to keep my chamber as clean as possible. As far as
overpressurization, it hasn't been a problem with our Amray scopes
because the stage/door is not locked to the chamber. At atmospheric
pressure, there is sufficient leakage past the O-ring seal to prevent
damage to our thin window EDS. I can only recall one incident in the
past 11 years (more than 100 microscope-years) when N2 broke a window.
That SEM was used by many people, was not well maintained, had
undiagnosed problems with the N2 purge (more flow! decrease cycle time!)
and a door that latched to the chamber.
My 2 cents
Harold J. Crossman
OSRAM SYLVANIA INC.
Lighting Research Center
71 Cherry Hill Dr.
Beverly, MA 01915
(978) 750-1717
crossman@osi.sylvania.com
How often are you venting the chamber ? We have found on our LEO 440 that
venting with nitrogen takes a long time (up to 30 minutes !!) (Maybe we're
doing something wrong, Luc?). Although the pump down time decreases, you're
probably going to lose more time venting than you'll gain with the decreased
pump down time if you're changing samples often. Venting with nitrogen will
keep the SEM cleaner, though, if time is not a problem.
Charles Bushell
CharlesB@mintek.co.za
mentioned here is ballistic damage -- particulates getting blasted off
the sample and punching a pinhole in the window. We see this problem
probably more often than implosion failures. Be aware of the geometry
of the venting flow pattern relative to the detector if you're considering
a customized venting system and analyze powders or other particulates.
Regards,
Rick Mott
rick@pgt.com
We vent all columns with nitrogen that is syphoned off a liquid nitrogen storage tank.
This nitrogen gas is also run through a tube with a drying agent to make sure it doesn't
pick up moisture from the lines.
We have scuba valves on the lines that will close as soon as you reach atmospheric
pressure. This eliminates the problem of accidentally pressurizing the microscope
column.
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down. It shouldn't take any longer to vent with N2 than with air.
Check the you still have gas, that you don't have any kinks in your
supply hose, and that your valve is open. As a check, take the hose off
at the inlet to your vacuum system. Moisten your lips and have the gas
flow over your lips. You should just feel a slight cooling sensation.
That is a good flow rate for venting a system.
Walck. Scott D
walck@ppg.com
used to prevent the incursion of water vapor into the chamber since
most vacuum systems have a hard time dealing with it.
The use of a desiccant column is well advised for any instrument. In
the long run however, there are two problems. The first is the
regeneration of the desiccant. You have to pay attention and bake
the water out of it at regular intervals. The second is a long term
accumulation of desiccant dust. Over time, the desiccants appear to
produce a very fine dust that will eventually clog the chamber vent
valve, resulting in a service call.
Nitrogen systems can produce their own problems. The need to have a
constant source of nitrogen can be eased by using the vapor from a
large storage dewar if liquid nitrogen is always available in the lab
due to EDS or other cryogenic systems. Generally, the nitrogen is
cheap but the demmurage charges for the dewar are not. If you use a
little more nitrogen per month, the cost is minimal if you already
have the need for the large dewar.
The savings is basically in time. The primary volume in an SEM
vacuum system is in the sample chamber. It is not system
cleanliness that is in question here, it is basically the time
involved in pumping the chamber to required levels. If one can
exclude water vapor from entering the sample chamber during sample
changes, there will be an appreciable improvement in pump down times.
A well airconditioned room is a start, desiccants next and a
nitrogen backfill is best. Airconditioning is a necessary first
step, since a warm and humid environment can also cause other
problems such as the condensation of water on the exterior of water
cooling lines used for diffusion pump and electronics cooling.
Most system contamination comes not from gases not pumped out, but
from air leaks and pump oils. By the time a system reaches
operational vacuum, the overwhelming majority of environmental gases,
including water vapor, will be gone.
Allen R. Sampson
Advanced Research Systems
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I have been responsible for a number of demonstration laboratories in the
past and I have always insisted upon using a dry gas rather than dirty old
(English) wet air.
Why?
1. Pump down time is improved considerably to ~50% in some cases, but it
takes months for this to happen.
2. Column cleanlyness improves so if you work at low kV (and you all
should try it) you will get a longer life from your column and its
apertures between cleaning.
3. Contamination is the biggest killer of high resolution microscopy and
this is also dramatically reduced.
Regards
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outside (where the plumbing is required) or the large upright (5 feet
high - 2.5 feet diameter). Both of these have valves to take off the
vapor above the liquid. This pressure can be quite high and they also
have pressure relief valves and safety blowout plugs.
You are correct about what I was saying. I used a small dewar that is
used for absorption pumps which are basically styrofoam. You can use
the styrofoam that is used to protect acid bottles when they are shipped
or your dewar that you use to fill the EDS detectors. (If your are in a
bind, put a tube into the EDS detector dewars.) If you have an open
container, just use Tygon. If you have a narrow neck, use a copper or
stainless steel tube to go into the tank so that it won't go hard if it
is bent and attach the Tygon tube onto the warm end of the tube. Now
you have to clear the line of the air in it just like any other line
that you attach to a vacuum system. Just after you put the tube into
the LN2, there will be blow out at the other end of the tube until the
temperature equilibrates. Position that end over the inlet to the
vacuum system to flush out the inlet also. While the gas is flowing,
put the tube on the inlet and that will give you a fairly clean line.
It doesn't matter what diameter(s) that you use, just length. About 8-10
feet is good enough. If you use a stainless steel tube to insert in the
LN2, it will blow gas a little longer than if you use copper because of
its lower thermal conductivity.
-Scott
From: Luc Harmsen
To: 'Walck. Scott D.'
Subject: RE: Venting SEM chambers with bottled nitrogen or air
Date: Thursday, July 30, 1998 1:39AM
Hi Scott,
Thanks for the info on the N2 boil off. However I do not have a clear
understanding of how people tap off the nitrogen from the dewars.
If I understand you correctly, you simply put a pipe from the vent valve
directly into the liquid nitrogen dewar standing a few meters away from
the SEM. This pipe is then long enough to ensure that as you vent the
liquid nitrogen will be sucked up into the pipe and will turn into gas
before it reaches the SEM due to the length of the pipe ?
Would you be putting a thin pipe into the liquid nitrogen and then a
larger diameter pipe after that to the vent valve to ensure the N2 does
turn into a gaseous form ?
Thanks
Luc Harmsen
Anaspec, South Africa
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system is water (90 - 97% on an RGA). If your lab gets humid and you
have a dry nitrogen backfill, you can partially pump several times to
remove most of the water and still be ahead of a single pump-down. A
dessicator on your vent line will behave in a simalar manner, but won't
work as well a dry nitrogen under 1 - 2 psi gauge pressure. Also, 1 - 2
psi should not hurt a light element window.
Ken Converse
owner
Quality Images
third party SEM service
Delta, PA
qualityimages@netrax.net
if you're putting it into LN2. It does not become brittle or crack. It
is available from Cole-Parmer (and almost certainly from other vendors as
well). I have no commercial interest in tubing of any sort.
Yours,
Bill Tivol
tivol@wadsworth.org
purpose of venting an EM may be most convenient for some people. A metal
tube would be inserted into the dewar's liq. N2 and a Tygon tube could
connect it to the EM's inlet valve.
I recommend stainless tubing, not copper. Copper would lose too much N2
from the dewar, particularly if it's forgotten in place. Not only is copper
a good thermal conductor but this property is retained down to liq N2
temperatures. Most SS is a mediocre thermal conductor and becomes much worse
(which for our purposes is better) at low temperatures.
The second point is that open (not pressurised) dewars absorb O2 and
this becomes liquid O2 and is mixed in with the liq. nitrogen. No problem
when the dewar has just been refilled and it's true, liquid air is very dry.
BUT a dewar that was filled 2 or three weeks ago will contain not only a
high percentage of oxygen, but also a lot of small, suspended ice particles.
Many readers would be familiar with the "boiling ice syndrome" which can
cause vibrations and "noise" in EDS systems. After a year of operation an
EDS dewar would contain more water per litre of gas (800 litres of gas in a
litre of liq N2) than is ever found in air including during a tropical
downpour. Moisture problem can occur when using an open dewar in some
instances.
Dry oxygen maybe a lesser consideration, however, when the filament chamber
is to be vented, it's even more important to wait until the filament has
cooled. Exposure of a hot filament or LaB6 cathode to N2 is not a good idea,
exposure to O2 is worse.
Cheers
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scattering effect compared to N2). Should we be concerned about any reaction
between the hot filament and the He? I would presume none. How about thermal
shock effects? Anybody care to comment?
Warren Straszheim
<wesaia@iastate.edu
I'm not sure what 'scattering' effects you believe helium will
improve. If you are referring to electron scattering during
operation, helium is probably harder for normal vacuum systems to
pump out then nitrogen, so the gain you are seeking more than likely
isn't there. I know of no practical difference between venting with
any dry gas.
Conductive heat dissipation is always much faster than
convective. In the two or three seconds it takes you switch the
accelerating voltage off and to hit the vent button, the majority of
the heat built up in the small mass of a tungsten filament will
probably be conducted off through the filament posts and electrical
contacts in the gun. As the backfill gas works its way into the
gun, the remainder of the heat will be removed rather slowly since
the leak provided by a normal vent valve is rather small, taking 30
seconds or more to completely vent.
I have never seen or heard of anything other than very loose
anecdotal evidence for increases in cathode life dependent on venting
methods. At the most, I'll accept customers turning the filament
drive down before turning off the accelerating voltage and venting
the instrument. Anything more than that is simply unnecessary. It
is far more important to be cognizant of small vacumm leaks,
particularily in areas that could bleed into the gun area. Air leaks
in the gun during operation are extremely damaging.
> At 02:52 PM 7/31/98 +1000, you wrote:
> >Dry oxygen maybe a lesser consideration, however, when the filament
> >chamber is to be vented, it's even more important to wait until the
> >filament has cooled. Exposure of a hot filament or LaB6 cathode to
> >N2 is not a good idea, exposure to O2 is worse. Cheers Jim Darley
> >ProSciTech Microscopy PLUS
>
> Hmmm. We vent our Hitachi with W filament with He (because of less
> scattering effect compared to N2). Should we be concerned about any
> reaction between the hot filament and the He? I would presume none.
> How about thermal shock effects? Anybody care to comment?
Allen R. Sampson
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I should have mentioned that our Hitachi is a 2460N low vacuum SEM. During
operation we He instead of air or N2 in order to reduce scattering effects
at the 40 Pa of atmosphere that we maintain in order to cancel charging on
our specimens. There was no intent of trying to reduce scatter by residual
gas at 10-5 torr levels since He might have displaced heavier molecules.
I was intrigued that a side benefit of our He use might be increased
filament life since the hot filament would not be exposed to N2 with its
detrimental effects. A coworker likes to wait until the filament cools for a
bit before venting the chamber (the gun chamber always gets vented with the
specimen chamber). However, I had been supposing that thermal issues might
be insignificant as you appear to corroborate. Since we just had a W
filament go 441 hours even with sample changes about every 2 hours, I
suppose that the Helium might be helping us some. However the benefits are
probably not worth someone switching over from N2 to He unless they too have
a "leaky" SEM.
Warren Straszheim
wesaia@iastate.edu
I would be curious if anyone has any real data on filament life as affected
by a cooling off period before chamber venting. Like many, I was trained
to always cool a filament for several minutes before admitting air, but if
it's really not necessary I'd be happy to stop. Sure would speed specimen
turn-around times when we're running a bunch through.
Another question: do you really find it necessary to use 40 pa to eliminate
charging on your 2460? Using both a 2460 and a 3200, I have almost always
been able to eliminate charging with pressures of 1-5 pa, which should give
substantially less scattering than 40 pa. Just wondering.
Finally---filament life of more than 400 hours is amazing!! And under
variable pressure with frequent specimen changes! I'd love to know the
secret to that trick. Maybe He is the wonder gas we've all been waiting
for....
Regards,
Randy
Randy Tindall
Electron Microscope Laboratory
Box 3EML
New Mexico State University
Las Cruces, NM 88003
rtindell@nmsu (work)
nrtindall@zianet.com (home)
at elevated temperatures is well known. I believe most of us who don't
wait for a cool down period are venting with dry nitrogen or some other
inert gas.
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>I would be curious if anyone has any real data on filament life as affected
>by a cooling off period before chamber venting. Like many, I was trained
>to always cool a filament for several minutes before admitting air, but if
>it's really not necessary I'd be happy to stop. Sure would speed specimen
>turn-around times when we're running a bunch through.
One operator likes to cool the filament for a while to get longer life. But
this filament has had a number of quick cool downs anyway. If it is a
reaction with nitrogen, then maybe we can vent the He to it right away. Then
again, we ran the scope in automatic mode with a beam shut off at the end of
the run. It might have had plenty of time to cool for most exchanges.
>Another question: do you really find it necessary to use 40 pa to eliminate
>charging on your 2460? Using both a 2460 and a 3200, I have almost always
>been able to eliminate charging with pressures of 1-5 pa, which should give
>substantially less scattering than 40 pa. Just wondering.
We have tried reducing the pressure and have run into charging. But we run a
lot of beam current to our concrete samples, around 1-2 nA by my guess.
Maybe the lower pressures work for lower beam current.
>Finally---filament life of more than 400 hours is amazing!! And under
>variable pressure with frequent specimen changes! I'd love to know the
>secret to that trick. Maybe He is the wonder gas we've all been waiting
>for....
I just hope that we can replicate the performance. Our normal life has been
in the 100 hour range.
Warren
As you all know the cathode assembly gets up to a pretty high temperature
too! If we vent with "dirty" air we cause contamination to deposit on the
hot cathode. I agree the filament cools very quickly but we all know the
cathode does not?
Waiting a few minutes after getting the READY indication before switching
on the filament and a few minutes after switching off the filament, prior
to letting in AIR, the result a difference in filament life and cathode
contamination.
The first point is that the READY indication means the vacuum is only just
good enough to use. Wait a few more minutes and the improvement in vacuum
will help give a better filament life and keep the column clean longer.
Put a beam down a column with a poor vacuum and you put up the
contamination! From the other direction allowing the cathode to cool prior
to letting in air will keep this cleaner too!
Just the same when you clean a column, it makes sense to clean the column
on a Friday afternoon, pump and wait over the weekend before putting a
beam down the column. Clean a column and then pass a beam through it
means that most of the vapours from the cleaning media have just deposited
on your clean components!
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of any inert gas.
In the 1950th (no, I was not in labs then), a paper was
published The life of filaments. My long-term memory recall
advises that short of physical violence, filament life is
determined by vacuum, if it's under 5x10-5 torr and by
emission if it's above 15microamps.
It is assumed that throughout it's life the filament is
correctly saturated. I recall that there was a curve (or
maybe just a number of data points) showing filament
"death" at various vacua and emissions. In modern
instruments, emission is most frequently the limiting
factor. Reaching a filament life of 500 hours is no trouble
in microprobes at say 10 to 15 microamps, it's a little
less for a TEM, which commonly run at 30 microamps. Tell me
when a SEM operating at 80 or more microamps reaches 500
hours filament time; then it will be time to rewrite that
1950ish paper.
Cheers
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different gas species goes as the molecular weight of the molecule. As
a result, the pump speed for He compared to N2 are much lower. I could
look it up, but I think that it is about an order of magnitude
different. Another point is that, because the sensitivity of ion gauges
is about 0.25 for He, the gauge pressure and the true pressure will be
different. With a sensitivity of 0.25 for an ion gauge, the true
pressure is four times the value displayed. I'm not sure what the
values are for Penning gauges, but they are probably in the same ball
park.
If your vacuum system has ion pumps, DO NOT backfill with an inert gas,
especially He! Even with the special ion pumps that bury the inert
gases into the plates, they still "burp" the inert gas. Helium pump
speeds are extremely low.
One interesting aspect about your use of He around a hot filament is
that it does have a higher thermal conductivity than N2, so I guess that
it would cool the filament faster.
-Scott
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