12/7/97


Dear Fellow Microscopists,



I am interested in visualising cellulose microfibrils and

microtubules/microfilaments in wood-forming cells of trees in the confocal

microscope. I use FITC-labelled antibodies for cytoskeleton and would like

to stain the cellulose with a fluorescent dye. If I had access to a UV

laser I would have no hesitation in using calcofluor/tinopal, but I don't.

So, can anybody suggest a visible light-excited fluorochrome that will

localise the cellulose and will permit imaging of both cellulose and

cytoskeleton? (If it helps we have a Zeiss 510 with 488, 568 and 633 nm

lines.)



I thank you in advance,



Yours sincerely,



Nigel Chaffey



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Dr Nigel Chaffey,

Dept Forest Genetics & Plant Physiology,

Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences,

S-901 83 Umeå,

Sweden

Phone: +46-90-786-6305

Fax: +46-90-786-5901

eMail: nigel.chaffey@genfys.slu.se


Try Congo Red. We use our FITC filters to image plant cell walls stained

with Congo Red. In your case this would probably mean you will need an

alternate secondary antibody fluorophore.

hberg@CC.MEMPHIS.EDU


Nigel:

Since you already are immunolabeling the cytoskeleton why not use a

lectin with a tag other than FITC (i.e. TRITC, Texas Red)? I've had

great luck with lectins.



I'm usually looking for chitin, so I don't have a favoirte

cellulose lectin, maybe some else does?







Richard E. Edelmann, Ph.D.

Electron Microscopy Facility Supervisor

352 Pearson Hall

Miami University, Oxford, OH 45056

Ph: 513.529.5712 Fax: 513.529.4243

E-mail: edelmare@muohio.edu


WHat about some of the other chemicals that are supposed to interfere with

cellulose by binding to it, like congo red? Or even something as venerable

as tol blue or safranin or any other of those old stains? No idea how well

these would fluoresce, or whether there would be too much bleed-through,

but should be relatively quick to try out.



good luck, and I would be interested to hear the results,



cheers,





Rosemary White

Department of Biological Sciences

Monash University, Melbourne, Victoria 3168, Australia

phone 61-3-9905 5670

fax 61-3-9905 5613 email r.g.white@sci.monash.edu.au


You can use congo-red as a cellulose stain. It is used or CSLM with

ar-ion laser. Cfr Stickens & Verbelen. J.Microscopy some where in 1996

or 1995.



Patrick Van Oostveldt

lab. Biochemistry & Molecular Cytology

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Hi Nigel

I have several suggestions. Try safranine (0.1% aq). This will stain

cellulose green and lignin red. It will also stain the membrane

systems in your cells. Unfortunately this will probably mask any

signal from your FITC label but you could try acquiring the FITC image

first then staining with safranine and try to find the same cell. Make

sure you mount in a non-solvent based medium such as water to avoid

leaching of stain.

My second suggestion is a bit more drastic. After acquiring your FITC

image, treat you section with 1M NaOH, wash, dry, treat with iodine

solution and preciptitate the iodine with conc. nitric acid, wash in

ethanol, mount in ethylene glycol and observe using reflection mode on

your confocal. If you are really lucky you will get an image showing

the cellulose microfibrils (actually bundles of microfibrils). This

probably won't work if your material is unlignified which I assume it

is.

The ideal way of doing this is to have a cellulose specific label such

as cellulase-Cy5 which will give you a label distinct from your FITC

but you would need to make this yourself !

If you get any of these to work let me know as we want to do the same

thing.

Best regards

Lloyd Donaldson

New Zealand Forest Research Institute Ltd

Private Bag 3020 Rotorua

New Zealand

email donaldsl@fri.cri.nz


Hi

I don't know about wood but in human tissue we use a .01% Evans Blue as a

total protien counterstain in conjunction with FITC tagged primary. The

evans blue excites and emmits like rodamine or texas red.



Bob

underwoo@u.washington.edu


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